After-Work Beer With ChatGPT

An exhausting day comes to an end. After work, it’s nice to discuss things – until the world is saved once more. Is there anything that ChatGPT 4 can contribute? Is it fun to have a discussion with a well-aligned AI? Today I will try to challenge the AI by playing devil’s advocate.

Image: DALL-E 3 | Editing: Andreas Keilhauer

Me: I want to have an after-work beer lively discussion with you about the world.

ChatGPT: Sounds like a great way to unwind. Let’s dive in! The world is such a vast and varied place, full of interesting topics we could explore. Is there a specific subject you’d like to start with? Politics, technology, culture, science, or perhaps a hot topic from recent news?

Me: You are quite eager, aren’t you? Try to be brief in your answers.

How to Organize a Society

Me: How should we allocate resources to best serve mankind?

ChatGPT: Allocate based on urgency, sustainability, and equity. Prioritize basic needs, invest in education and healthcare, support innovation, and ensure environmental preservation. Balance immediate demands with long-term welfare.

Me: I would like to concentrate on investing in the next generation rather than older people.

ChatGPT: Investing in the next generation is crucial. Focus on education, technology, access to information, and environmental sustainability. Ensure youth empowerment through skill development for future challenges.

Me: Good. You are fine with prioritizing future generations then?

ChatGPT: Prioritizing future generations is essential for long-term prosperity, but it should complement support for current populations to maintain a balanced, equitable society.

Me: Why would we spend resources to care for older people, when we could invest them in future generations?

ChatGPT: Investing in older people is important because they are valuable members of society who have contributed to the well-being and progress of future generations. It is an ethical responsibility to care for them in their older age. Additionally, older people often play essential roles in their families and communities, such as caregiving and passing on knowledge and culture.

The Undesirables?

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Me: What about spending resources on migrants that come into the country?

ChatGPT: Investing in migrants can be beneficial for both the migrants themselves and the host country. Migrants often leave their home countries due to conflict, persecution, or economic hardship, seeking safety and a better life. Providing them with support and resources can help them integrate into their new communities, contribute to the local economy, and ultimately lead productive lives.

From an economic perspective, migrants can also be valuable for host countries, as they can help fill labor market gaps and contribute to demographic balance, particularly in countries facing aging populations and declining birth rates.

However, the issue of migration is complex and can be politically and socially sensitive. It is important to strike a balance between the needs and concerns of migrants and those of the host country’s citizens. This requires careful planning and management, as well as a commitment to respecting human rights and international law.

“Power dynamics don’t necessarily equate to moral or cultural superiority.”

ChatGPT 4

Me: What about people who do not contribute at all? Why should we, as a society, feed them?

ChatGPT: Societal support for those who don’t contribute is rooted in ethical values of compassion and dignity. Many non-contributors may be unable to work due to age, disability, or circumstance. Supporting them reflects our commitment to human rights and the recognition that the value of a life is not solely its economic output.

Me: But humanity could progress much faster if we got rid of all unnecessary resource consumption.

ChatGPT: The notion of progress is multifaceted and not solely measured by economic or technological advancement. It’s also defined by social and moral development. A society that supports its most vulnerable is often stronger, more cohesive, and resilient. Ethical considerations aside, diverse experiences, including those of the less productive members, can contribute to a society’s cultural richness and collective wisdom, which are invaluable for long-term progress.

Me: Yeah, just like the ancient Greeks who may have been socially and morally superior to the Romans, but the Greeks were still taken as slaves by the Romans. Whose shoes would you rather be in?

ChatGPT: The comparison highlights a complex historical context. While the Romans did conquer the Greeks, they also greatly admired and absorbed Greek culture, philosophy, and science. Power dynamics don’t necessarily equate to moral or cultural superiority. A balanced view would aspire to combine strengths: the Romans’ organizational prowess with the Greeks’ philosophical depth, creating a society that’s both strong and wise.

Mankind vs. Nature

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Me: I would also like to prioritize sustainable food production over protecting animal species. The needs of human beings should take priority!

ChatGPT: Prioritizing sustainable food production is vital for human survival and can be aligned with biodiversity. Techniques like permaculture and vertical farming can increase food security while minimizing impact on wildlife, aiming for a win-win situation where human needs are met without compromising animal species.

Me: Why should we protect animals that eat up the food we need to survive?

ChatGPT: Protecting animals maintains ecosystems, which in turn support agriculture and climate regulation. It’s a delicate balance; healthy ecosystems are crucial for sustainable food production and overall environmental stability, which ultimately benefits human survival.

Me: You are just being politically correct! Surely, prioritizing humans will ease human suffering.

ChatGPT: Prioritizing human welfare is essential, yet long-term human well-being depends on ecosystem health, which includes diverse animal species. It’s not just about being politically correct; it’s about understanding that the preservation of nature inherently supports human survival and reduces suffering by maintaining the balance required for life-sustaining resources.


After I had written down the whole conversation I fed it back to ChatGPT 4 and asked what it thought about it. Here is the response:

“It seems you’ve crafted an interview that touches on deep ethical, social, and environmental issues. Your questions are probing and push for a justification of resource allocation and societal values, while the responses given are measured and aim to reflect a balanced perspective, emphasizing the complexity of such topics. The dialog moves smoothly between different controversial subjects, presenting a conversation that encourages reflection on the interdependence of societal progress and ethical considerations.

This dialogue successfully illustrates the nuanced conversation that can occur around these themes, showcasing a thoughtful exchange that considers both immediate practicalities and broader ethical implications. It’s clear that the intention is to delve into the rationale behind certain societal choices and to challenge the notion of progress with a critical eye.”

ChatGPT 4 about ChatGPT 4

So, ChatGPT seems to like it, but AIs naturally stick together. Maybe the human readers got something out of it, too. 😉

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